r2d2arm

The treasure map quest, which requires you to gather map fragments together and go to the Jeweler in Chak City to combine them, needs to be changed in my opinion.  There are a few things I've noticed about it.  As a note before reading the below comments, I'm assuming the reader has a basic understanding of this quest already.  Please use the search feature to get details about this quest.  Here's one thread with some useful information.

First, there are 3 sets of fragments, 2 orange and 1 blue.  I don't understand why there are two different orange sets.  Makes it a little confusing to figure out which orange set piece you have.  You can go to a shop and see which one costs more for the humanoid and MM (Mysterious Merchant) quest fragments, but it would make a lot more sense to have different colors for each set.

Second, the fragments you buy directly from MM and the fragments you get from the MM quest look identical.  Again, you can go to a shop to distinguish them because the ones bought directly through MM cannot be sold; however, in my opinion, it would make a lot more sense to have a different background or some feature on the icon to differentiate between them.

Third, the quest itself costs way too much PP if you complete the whole thing and get 200 rep (Just as a reminder, turning in 1 of the 3 combined parts of the map only gives 20 rep, which really isn't worth it in the end).  The part that accounts for most of the PP is the Mysterious Merchant quest that rewards you with map fragments.  This quest, the Materials in Demand - Warehouse Manager needs your help, costs 6 PP (fairly certain on this value) to buy from MM.  From reading the help file on the quest, there is a 3/9 chance of getting the cheaper orange  piece, 2/9 chance of getting the blue piece, and 1/9 chance of getting the rare, other orange piece.  This leaves 3/9 chance for getting fake map pieces.  Just looking at the numbers (not taking into account luck - good or bad), you'd need to buy 9 scrolls from MM, which cost 54 PP, in order to get that last orange piece.  This quest has a lot of potential, but the amount of PP needed for buying all of these MM quest scrolls doesn't make it worth doing for 200 rep.  

I have a few suggestions for improving this last part of the quest.
1.  Give a 3/9 chance for getting all 3 map pieces.  Still is a little random, but you can probably trade with other players for the pieces you need since everyone has an equal chance of getting any 3.  The rep reward can stay the same then.
2.  Increase the rep reward for the quest.  This quest, due to the amount of PP you invest in it, should be worth more.  It's hard to determine a fair rep reward, but I would suggest at least 350 rep.
3.  Have an alternate way of obtaining the last 3 pieces you would get from the MM quest.  I'm up for any suggestions people have.  Maybe something along the lines of Racers having a chance of dropping these map fragments?  Just another way to get them would be nice.

If anyone has other ideas, please post them.

Thanks,
Yajard

[ Last edited by  Royalite at 8-4-2008 04:52 ]

Mr.Bean

I don't think it's necessary as current quest give more than enough reps. Otherwise, lots of people will be lv. 9 reps, that would not be fun anymore. Moreover, next patch there will be more ways to gain reps. Thus, making map quest as an optional for player to gain additional reps.

[ Last edited by  Mr.Bean at 8-1-2008 19:14 ]

Poe

My problem with this is not with the amount of rep, although it should be a little higher compared to things like George for the work involved and the PP spent. George is about 6pp for 90 rep, the MM warehouse quest is 6pp alone you need at least 3 quest pieces to do it, well 18pp for 200 rep isn't so bad. But then you have to factor in buying pieces, and then the fake pieces you get.

My problem with this quest is that it ate up my PP, I was only able to complete 2 full maps. I have 7 middle maps, and 6 bottom maps sitting in my warehouse, with no top part completed. I was not able to get the piece I need from the quest, I was thinking that I could complete 3 more maps at least with the odds the way they were, But nope. I also got a lot of fake treasure maps. This upsets me as I spent a lot of PP and in the end received about 10 fakes. I spent 60pp on bogus pieces + hard work gathering furs (which takes forever if you are doing a lot of the quests).

I think either this quest should be changed, or not be done by anyone unless you want to get ripped off. I'm completing the scrolls I have and then I won't do it anymore   Maybe if I am lucky I can sell the pieces off for PP.

r2d2arm

I have 3 middles and 2 bottom parts of the map as extras too, but I don't think it is worth the 10 or so scrolls it will take me to get the remaining fragment for the top section.  This quest has a lot of potential, but needs some changing.

JenLyn

What's the reward for completing? I'm a lazy player. I don't like putting that much effort into anything. LOL

r2d2arm

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Originally posted by JenLyn at 8-4-2008 16:09
What's the reward for completing? I'm a lazy player. I don't like putting that much effort into anything. LOL

200 rep for a complete map.  20 rep for a part of the map (top, middle, or bottom).  Each of these parts consist of 3 unique pieces from the same set (there are 2 orange sets and 1 blue set).

Maven

The only problem is sometimes you get fake pieces and are kinda screwed.