Nuoklin

Well, most people that like to PvP know me and I know a lot of you dislike me. BUT never the less I want to try to revive PvP in this game. Lately the only kind of PvP I experienced was stupid gank fights in Bayer and even these are so rare, that the game gets kind of boring. In my eyes Duels are the royal class of PvP. There I can proof weather I know how to play my char or not against every kind of opponents. At the same time I can learn new things from every fight without being in danger to loose anything or costing my guild high amounts of AP.
So here is what I would like to do: I would like to get more players who actually see themselves as PvPers involved into regular duels at a set place in a "peaceful" way. This means no trashtalk, no arguments, just fair duels and may be even a bit help for weaker players. I will keep calling for duels as I did a lot of times lately with little success in the hope that more than the normal 2 or 3 players will show up.

Nuoklin

wirado

Yep, i agreed with Nuo.

I got no comment on duels in bayer since everyone scared of me and always come with gang ....

Husarow

Lol wirado I thought thats what you wanted since you got Rep 8 set and then Kylin. You shouldnt wonder about that hehe
But I think its a nice idea from Nuoklin and I will have a look from time to time.
I hope many players will come and participate.

Husarow

Terry

agree, I like PVP also and I will see if I can heighten the item drop rate when a player is pked.

Husarow

Terry this fact that people drop things when being pked is the reason for many ppl to stop PvP.
We are talking about normal duells in Sun City where nothing happens when you lose. Because there are many people frightened to lose their valuable stuff when pking/being pked or being in bayer and lose contr points/activity points.
But we still want to PvP so the only way is to have some fair duells in sun to get as many participants as possible.
So please dont change that.

Husarow

BEEGEE

Well Nuo....ur point sound nice....I'm absolutely agree

Anyway "Lately the only kind of PvP I experienced was stupid gank fights in Bayer "
hmmmm...it's not that serious problem....coz "BAYER IS NEUTRAL FOR GUILD WAR"....that's mean guild Vs Guild (Definitely not Super Royal Fair Duel anyway)

and Wirado....that's no Duel in bayer LOLLOLOLOLOLOLO.....just NEUTRAL GUARD GUILD VS GUILD
also eveyone scared of you...coz you're stupid dumass KSER KSER KSER....and only know about power language (not human language)....when you almost die or gonna lose just Stupid dump heavenly book (nice practice to use it real real fast b4 u die and ur name shown u got killed LOL)

WIRADO>> If you think you're tooo good and immortal....dont be scared of gang fight ROFLMAO (U MUST FIGHT IN ANY SITUATION....IF YOU"RE REAL GOD

Nuoklin

What I said above doesn´t keep me or any of my guildmates out of bayer. But in bayer it seems to be more a question of quantity and not quality. You can be as good as you want, but if 3 or 4 80+ chars are beating on you you will die. You might take one with you if you are good, but that´s it. So there is a big difference between group fights in Bayer (for me no skill needed, just a lot of people) or duels, where you have to find the weaknesses of your opponent and hide your own to survive. You could have these occasional 1v1 fights in Bayer, but I´m sorry to say, that most people running around in bayer will not stand and fight in a 1v1 fight. They run/teleport away, call in more friends or hide in a town till backup appears.

So in the end the only way for me to have real fights in an area where neither me or my opponent looses anything but a bit faith is in duels in sun. Saying all this I again invite everybody to call me when ever I´m online for duels I will most likely have time to show up...

BadBoy

I can not struggle through the weeknespoints i have  

Royalite

So there is no confusion about the dropping...

Duels is Sun City shouldn't mean you drop stuff.  Sun City should go back to being a safe zone where duels are done in compete mode where you don't lose dura or items.

Duels outside of Sun City should be an unsafe zone meaning you can drop stuff from your inventory when killed but not equipped items.  If you have something valuable in your inventory you should store it or equip it.  If someone kills you and you drop it then it is your fault.  I do want to add though that PP items shouldn't drop.  Just like you can't sell them to the store, you shouldn't drop them b/c you paid real money for it.  A lot of mmos have that policy for cash items.  One more thing, fix the scapegoat stone so it can work properly =/

BEEGEE

good point Nuo..

PDO definitely design for team playing style... not the 1 man show like some tower or dream boss, pot cd etc..

For the Teleportation, I mentioned wirado coz he's KOSer and KSER and some of them keep complaining about gang fight 5 Vs 1 or 10 Vs 1 in bayer..ACUALLY BAYER IS NEUTRAL GUILD VS GUILD.....just wonder why they keep complained and frustrated about that...sometime they just falmed the world chat about gangband LOL

PS. PDO  = Team play Style...and Cooperate

Annonymous

huatos

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Originally posted by Husarow at 31/10/2008 04:31 AM
Terry this fact that people drop things when being pked is the reason for many ppl to stop PvP.
We are talking about normal duells in Sun City where nothing happens when you lose. Because there are ma ...

Dude sry bya but theres not even alot of ppl who like to fight anymore. alot of ppl in this community are carebears -_-... an [***] loss an gain is part of PvP if u lose somthing it gives u drive to get stronger an kill em an take it back or somthing better. you work your ass off to kill ppl in "non safe zones" you should get a reward even if its a friggin pot   they should have the old drop rates back. duels in sun in a safe zone like b4 is where you should practice an then take your skills out an fight where it counts. hell most ppl dun fight full out an have good fights in sun cuz it doesnt matter. when you got a chance to lose somthing ppl fight alot harder an its alot more fun.   bring back the PK that actually means somthing!!!!!!!!!!!!! not just ppl who suck trying to get better thats what safe zones are for -_- sun is for pratice an just [***]ting around. non safe zones were made for PKing. or they wouldnt have the option to drop stuff. should be like b4 lots of fights everywhere outside sun lots of loss an gain an wars it was fun as hell. then all them quit. an new generation of noobs play now. that dun like to fight they wanna sit around an chat   theres IM's for chat dun need to take up space -_- need more PK in this game -_- it had some then it died. specially now. duels are fun ect. but they basicly just practice. if your smart you wont fight all out in sun so when they fight you in bayer or in a non safe zone you got some tricks up your sleeve that they like WTH! whered that come from?!


kill the carebears! replace em with the old ppl who liked to fight!!!!!

[ Last edited by  huatos at 10-31-2008 09:17 ]

Husarow

Well there is a lot of truth in your words crow, I agree to you.
I'm speaking as a player who likes to have duells to show my abilities to everyone who watch it.
When I'm fighting in bayer there is so much confusion everywhere so nobody would really acknowledge what I've done. I kill maybe 1 or 2 guys in a group of 10...who cares...in 1 minute they are after me again and kill me. It's a circle (as long as you can kill someone in bayer).
So in Sun you can really show what you are capable of. You wont have the chance to fight that way in bayer because there could always be some other guy behind the next corner who joins your fight then.

I've never been a victim to PKers so I leave that topic to you crow

Husarow

BEEGEE

LOL Agree with Crow....But SUn city should be the same safe zone for practice...and then bring a new PK Arena for those who REALLY FIGHT FOR REAL AND LOSE FORE REAL.....i Suggest for PK Areana to drop ALOT ALOT stuffs when one lose (Equipped gear might be differential) but reward should be really good like some PK point can exchange for rep or magic..

Well...should make thing goes 2 ways....one for who wanna practice and other who really need NEAD fight, gain or lose one best gear

Just suggest...

[ Last edited by  BEEGEE at 10-31-2008 07:47 ]

huatos

PK Arena! and ADD higher the drop rates in NON SAFE ZONES. they called that for a reason! lastest patch made them safe an made sun not safe for ppl with wicked. which is a total [***] up of what the game orginally was it went in the opposite direction

Terry you said they were lowerd... but kill'd ppl didnt get [***]. then i killed some more on diff chars... basicly i killed enough ppl to be high wickedness criminal an havent even gotten a POT. so its not lowerd its elminated. total have kill 13 diff ppl an didnt get 1 pot or scapegoat. so got wickedness for nothing. and now i can drop [***] even in sun. thats lil screwed up did all that work didnt get [***] an now i can lose stuff? you elminated the lil PKing there was....

Vegiroth

Thank you Terry for wanting to raise the drop rate for when a player is pk'd in a pk area. Lately, if you have 0 wickedness points you will drop nothing for being pk'd which is wrong because this is a pvp game and you shouldn't be able to walk around with no fear at all of losing your items. Also ya there needs to be more people interested in pvp, since this game has a poor pve system that isn't all that fun to begin with. I'm one of the few that would stop playing because pvp in this game is dieing. And that is the only reason I wanted to join this game, kind of a way to re-live my old conquer online days before that game got ruined by dragonballs.