Post Last Edit by KamoteQ at 9-19-2009 21:12

45# Sa7er

Yes, but not on this side of the planet Sa7er. Here there is only 10AM to 11PM internet cafe
37# Monkey

yes it will be more X-Force and Corleoni for bayer....are you afraid of fair competition .... or want keep fighting half sleeping players awake at 5am 6am ... why complaining its one wee ...
Sa7er Post at 9-19-2009 19:49
If you want to be fair, look for a middle ground.  Right now, as witnessed by Bayer yesterday and assuming today (missed it myself), not many of those living in Asia make it to Bayer at the current time.  Shifting it one or two hours would be reasonable.

There are definitely more from Xforce and Corleone on, but doesn't mean that other guilds are scared.  If their members can't even get on at those times, you won't see much of a fight.  Considering guild hopping is in effect, makes bayer wars even worse at this time.  If you want real fights, a middle ground needs to be reached.
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Post Last Edit by vlanche at 9-19-2009 22:38

in my opinion bayer war doesnt have "real fights or fair fights". there is teleportation before you die, guild hopping is also there so where is the fair and real fight there? lets not all be hypocrite that we dont want to get towns, districts or capital. whats the sense of going bayer then? really bayer war will never be fair for anyone!! maybe fun for some but not fun for all.  

and sa7er i have nothing against on ur post but regarding the internet cafe of what kamote have said, not all places have 24/7 internet cafes. lets not assume that what you have there we also have here and what we have here you also have there. different places have different ways of living.

and regarding what chim have said, im also wondering "yes why the time they can fix but the guild hopping they can't" well i dunno its the GMs decision.

dont get mad at my post. i also have the right to air my side, nothing personal.
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fair competition? when is guild hopping fair? if you want fair competition don't guild  hop ,stay in one guild and fight for that guild. That's fair competition.It's been going  on since merchant time and now with xforce,corleone and the.
37# Monkey

yes it will be more X-Force and Corleoni for bayer....are you afraid of fair competition .... or want keep fighting half sleeping players awake at 5am 6am ... why complaining its one wee ...
Sa7er Post at 9-19-2009 17:49
dude, what is a fair competition to you?
if you want to be fair, let the time be as it is..
is that not fair?
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i think the table i made shows that the time is almost perfect , you guys chasing personal cases , i dont think 8AM is a bad time for asian , its almost same as 11 AM , someone dont have net at home > personal case , someone sleeps at 8 AM > personal case ; but making time where it is 5 AM > is a continent case , we are human and have to sleep at appropriate time , its true some were like zombies  staying awake that late but summer is over and people have to work and study , dont be so greedy and want the time thats suit you perfectly and eleminate the others , for god sake dont tell me 8AM is a bad time for asian thats so stupid to say.
ignoring all that its week by week , means everyone got the chance to come and have fun at least once evry 15 days , that was a very clever solution by the GM and i salut them for this its the perfect solution , but no still got crying babies saying "let us play alone and others go to hell , dont sleep be a zombie".
now let talk about guild hooping > not a good thing AGREE , not fair > i dont agree > why ? because evrybody can do it , its not like the bug works for a guild and doesnt for another , go ahead and hoop too none is holding you ... you dont like it not my problem... you all exploring the game bugs.. but some bugs are welcome others you crying about... yea i hope all the bugs get fixed but as long it work for all means its fair play to use or explore.
you are asking something so selfish here , let us sleep till 11AM eat our breakfast , maybe go for a walk then go have fun in the game , but the other half have to stay awake till 5AM ....... get over it , its done , its fair , its for evryone , you dont like it , you still have your old time next week.
QUIT THIS SELFISH NONE SENS COMPLAINING and kamote lmao you rarely come bayer so....

everyone has the right to give their opinion on this matter and not all complaints will be noted as selfishness.  this is not  a " my ideas only is the correct one" thread. i dont like the new time and thats for myself only but i do like for everyone to participate which i definitely agree.  so if next wekk will be the suitable time for me well then i will just be there next week. in the mid east this new time will be 3 am so dont say that this is also a good time. my friend in LA have work during this time too so i guess also not a good time, but its ok i just hope that every other week  everyone will be given the chance to do bayer (as what im expecting, so dont make this a permanent thing).

and regarding for guild hopping still not fair for me, not all that we can do we have to abuse....you have your reasons i have mine i respect yours  and i just want to air my side.  i just hope that the GMs be eual and not be biased coz if they can fix bayer time they can also fix bugs like this which have been compalined already for months. i know i will sound negative again to you guys but i also have the right to say what i feel we are all equal here.

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Problem about guild hopping compared to changing bayer time, the fix is not as easy to implement.  Changing server time is rather simple compared to looking at the game code and making modifications.  However, guild hopping has been mentioned a few months back, which should be enough time to at least look into the problem and come up with a solution.

My views on guild hopping are already on the appropriate thread in the bug section (it is a bug afterall).  A few bugs in this game mostly all can benefit from, but there are also few like guild hopping that all do not or refuse to exploit since it takes away the meaning of certain parts of the game.  For more discussion on guild hopping, check out this thread http://pdobbs.enjoymmo.com/thread-4035-1-1.html
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guild hopping is one selfish act because you want to get all the towns, districts and capital with the same guild members. and your saying that your not selfish sa7er. You are making me laugh.
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That is not personal and is their time and I rather play at 6 am than 3am
guild hopping is one selfish act because you want to get all the towns, districts and capital with the same guild members. and your saying that your not selfish sa7er. You are making me laugh.
chim Post at 9-20-2009 08:03
You hit the point.
Sa7er, dont tell me its for fun again. You can go to districts even if you got the towns with your guild. There is no special need for guild hopping but still using it is selfish. Dont blame others for playing fair if you cant.
My 2 cents to this
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I am boycotting bayer.  I will not b there any longer.  If it gets fixed. I will b back.

Tired of guild hopping.  On Friday, everyone gets kicked from X-Force and logs out.  when they log in 5 minutes later, they join Corleone and take all the towns.  The very next day they get kicked from Corelone and join The or another, then take as much of the district as they can.  Right now they own all towns and districts.  On Sunday, they get kicked again, log out then join back to X-Force to take Capital.  It boring with this guild hopping bug and it has been mentioned over and over again.

Its ok...imo the big guild X-Force (Corleone-X-Force-The) can have bayer.  That is what you wanted and the GM's will do nothing about it.  Its yours. You got the time change and now you will have all bayer and there will b no other guild new or old that will have anything.  Gratz...it worked out perfect for you.  As for me, there are lots of other things to do in the game.

Oh...maybe you can get it changed to X-Force instead of bayer next...lolzz
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Guys you should really stop all the crying about us taking all towns, ok yes we guild hop and take them, but the principle is NO different than what you were doing, warriors the guild with 1 active player (on a good day) taking cap. Dun be pissy just cause u guys dont run bayer anymore, it was YOUR guildees who showed us this bug, so live with it, and if ya cant then do it too, who knows maybe u can take a town too i dun like the hopping either, i think its wrong and unfair, but if they gonna do nothin about it *shrugs* why not
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idk...like i said...bayer is all yours.  I am done with it.   many other things to do besides bayer.  I can't make it usually during those times because i have to work.  But I'm not just thinking of myself...so please for a fraction of a second stop thinking about the 2 alliances that have been in contention for bayer.   There are other guilds here...they have no chance to even get a town.  

Bayer is all yours.  we choose not to participate. we choose not to take advantage of guild hopping.
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now i see really how pissed u are thx for the laughs
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