Husarow

This is my opinion about the earth element for Paladin and Priest!

As you can see there are really many bosses in the game so teamplay cannot be avoided. In a party there is (normally) a tank who gets the attention of the mobs that the others can hit it. So it would be the best to have a tank in the team which is normally a paladin because of his higher defense.
But here the priests have their pets to tank when they reach lvl 30. And u can become lvl 30 really fast even alone.
I'm playing an earth paladin (now lvl 41). It is nearly impossible for me to get the attention of the creatures.

So a paladin with lots of defense (an earth paladin) is worthless.
Some skills of an earth pala are useless too.
He can protect himself for several seconds so that he gets no damage and after it he has some damage deflection, thats ok! But for PvP its useless because assassins can lay their traps in front of me and when my skill ends i got trapped! Its really stupid!

Then the skill "Buddhas Palm". It gives with lvl 2 (lvl 30) 15 defense. When I'm lvl 30 i have more than 300 defense so 15 defense is nothing --> useless except of the fact that it cures abnormal status (can also be healed by priests with small healing)

With lvl 40 i got a really stupid skill for a tank!!!
A tank gets a skill which gives 30% movement speed??? What is that for? That i can run away??? And it costs 1/4 of my mp (440 mp)!!
The best thing it lasts whole 6 seconds...


Another character where the earth element is useless is priest.
Why do you need an aura with + defense when the pet has the whole attention of the enemies?
And i think the aura is something really important for a priest. Comparing to metall which gives + damage the earth priest is useless (sry for all who started one)

In World of Qin 2 (predecessor of PDO, on the german server) Earth as an element was more needed than in PDO because the pets were weaker and couldnt held the complete attention. And there were no pills for mp and lp like in PDO.
And an earth paladin was able to defeat higher lvl creatures on his own. In PDO you need pills but then you can also play a metall paladin and use them. So you dont need a earth paladin.

My conclusion to this: Don't play an earth paladin or an earth priest because this is a game for teamplaying and in a team both of them are useless!


PS: I had to write this comment on earth element because I loved playing an earth paladin but i got disappointed. It does not make sense to play one. *Changing to another class or another element...dont know yet^^*

Husarow   *hope to get some feedback - maybe from engputer who has an earth paladin*

Royalite

Wow I play an earth priest and I didn't get that feeling that I was useless.

Wizards love my defence boost and it keeps myself alive as well.  For pvp earth priest is not the way to go.  I have no attack.  But for teams, I am a godsend.  I have team member beg for me to recast my defense boost.  I can't say about earth paladins.  I don't know much about them.  But as an earth priest I feel very useful in teams.


[edit] Also mobs agro to the one doing the most damge.  For a priest it is their pets but typically in a team I am not doing the most damage even with my pets.  The wizards are doing the most damage and attracting the most attention.  I can stand next to a wizard and heal/buff him.  The mobs generally don't attack me b/c of the wizards aoe.  So I heal and watch everyone's health while they are killing and being attacked.

[ Last edited by  Royalite at 23-8-2007 13:58 ]

Husarow

What level is your priest?

Royalite

Err 81 >.>

[edit] But I have the most experience running the 10-26 quests at the moment as a lvl 18 earth priest with a lvl 20 wizard.

[ Last edited by  Royalite at 23-8-2007 13:59 ]

Husarow

And thats the problem!
You dont have the lvl 30 pet Paoxiao!
This pet gets the attention of all creatures around it. Really often more than only one.
Now all other players dont need the aura anymore because they dont get any hit.
Thats what i meant.

Husarow

neko2008

I disagree with your argument.  Actually, it is my belief that every element is at least playable for every character, but I think that Earth element actually is one of the better ones for both the Paladin and the Priest.

Earth is fairly useless to a wizard, because they are meant to be all about high attack and low defense.  However, this is the only class that I believe has real trouble majoring in Earth.

The major element does more than just give you skills.  It also changes your stats.  With Earth element you receive higher defense per each level.  This amplifies the Paladin's ability to be a successful tank, both in and out of parties.  Even if he does low damage, in a party all that is important is that he be there to be attacked by the monsters and hold them off.  It also decreases that amount of money you need to spend on HP potions throughout the game.

As for the Earth Priest, the additional defense is very handy for the priest in situations where the enemy attacks the Priest instead of the summons.  However, more important for the priest is the buffing skills that he receives.  THESE ARE MEANT TO BE USED IN A PARTY.  An Earth Priest is a character that is almost specifically designed to be used as a party member.

So in short I don't consider them completely worthless.  Personally, I like the Metal Paladin and Water Priest better, but the Earth elementals for both of those classes do have their upsides.

Royalite

You have a very interesting point.  I will see how it works on in gameplay.  Thus far I don't feel useless.  But with more time I can better evaluate the element and class.

Certainly for pvp earth priest is not the way to go.

Husarow

More downsides than upsides.

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Earth is fairly useless to a wizard, because they are meant to be all about high attack and low defense.  However, this is the only class that I believe has real trouble majoring in Earth.

No! An earth wizard is one of the best class for pvp because of the skills. They have three stuns and with some luck they wont get any hit from other players.

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The major element does more than just give you skills.  It also changes your stats.  With Earth element you receive higher defense per each level.  This amplifies the Paladin's ability to be a successful tank, both in and out of parties.  Even if he does low damage, in a party all that is important is that he be there to be attacked by the monsters and hold them off.

The damage is not the problem. But why do i need more defense when none of the monsters attack me because the pet of the priest (lvl 30 pet) has the whole attention? As u said priest are needed in a team but their pets are really strong, they can all tank more than a paladin! So I'm not able to tank!

©TriMoon™

How is the skill RiverFlow, level 40 skill, from Earth-Paladin?
Isn't that meant to attract attention of creatures?
I got an alter Earth based Paly, ChopGirl, thats lvl 18 atm....

Yasira

first i love earth so i started here a earthpriest aswell

so i think i can compare earthpriest here (selflvling) and in woq2 (the other 5-element-game of os)

in woq2 earth is 1 of 2 options for a priest cause his def is really strong and helps me a lot against mobs or players

in PDO i love my paoxiao (3.pet) cause its holding the aggro and make ae dmg but i can do lesser here. without my pao im nothing my def is not as strong like in woq and also my dmg is much lesser. for teamplay my pao is nice but a zhuyan from a metalpriest like confuzius can do the same and his aura is more helpful for the team.

royalite u cant compare a lvl 81 earth priest who ve a lvl 20 wizard in his team with a normal teamplay sry

tatewaki and i play a long time earth together and for both of us its really hard to see how useless earth now really is.

in the final i will make a earth priest again but it will not be my main char its only a memory of my lovely earth.....

grz yasira

[ Last edited by  Yasira at 23-8-2007 11:16 ]

Tecu

Earth Element is great.

Husarow

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Originally posted by ©TriMoon™ at 23-8-2007 11:13
How is the skill RiverFlow, level 40 skill, from Earth-Paladin?
Isn't that meant to attract attention of creatures?
I got an alter Earth based Paly, ChopGirl, thats lvl 18 atm....

With lvl 40 i got the stupid movement skill!
I get Riverflow with lvl 45 so i could not test it at the moment.

But if this skill would work as it says then the pet would be useless because the spirits do more damage. And now i have the complete ettaention of all of the creature and I have too less defense to defend all the attacks (already tested). My priest was not able to heal all the damage its easier with a paoxiao!

Husarow

[ Last edited by  Husarow at 23-8-2007 11:21 ]

Royalite

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Originally posted by Yasira at 8/23/2007 02:14 PM
first i love earth so i started here a earthpriest aswell

so i think i can compare earthpriest here (selflvling) and in woq2 (the other 5-element-game of os)

in woq2 earth is 1 of 2 options for a pr ...

My husband and I played together as a lvl 18 priest and lvl 20 wizard and worked well together.
I haven't been able to play and fully test out the earth abilities.  But we're both going to do the harder quests together as a team and see if it plays off so well at the higher lvls.

Seems that the earth has at least one useful skill paoxiao

I dunno many people have been saying water is useless and wood is useless etc.

I did said you had an interesting point about earth but I still think I will stick to the element even after open beta.
I did minor in metal which helps...I only got the tiger summon and the attack spell though not the buff.

Thinking in different terms...how do the buffs fair in fraction and state wars?
Will the metal wizard with that extra defence buff help against another metal wizard without the buff?

Or what about when raiding that crazy dragon?  Would it help to have a diverse range of players or only one type?

I don't know.  For now I am still willing to try out the earth element.

site

wrong


in chinese lore, there are 5 elements

jin, mu, shui, huo, tu

otherwise

gold, wood, water, fire, and earth

gold would prolly translate tometal due to this, but

taking out earth, would screw up the game

Mayflower

I think you probably just haven't found the right mobs for you

Instead, I was thinking about not picking an element.  It seems like you get advantage of more damage and also weak against certain element.  Will I be screwded staying neutral? :p